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ADR是什么意思 啊?

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ADR是什么意思 啊?

今天看了一部电影的制作花絮;不知道这个“ADR Mixers ”是什么意思;高人请指教;谢谢!

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accident date recorder mixers

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什么意思?

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automated dialog replacement

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什么意思?

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就是后期的对白补录

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根据同期声参考声带进行对白重置的技术。
中国式的后期配音错在三本教科书。

很多人一说到同期录音就对我说,现在外国都是后期配音,都是ADR我想向大家说明一个情况,是因为国内很少的人弄懂adr的真正意思。他们只是照搬的名词和形式,没有搞懂实际是什么东西。



国内录音学生主要用的三本电影录音教科书都犯了同样的错误。



ADR的原文是Automatic Dialog Replacement. 或者Automated Dialog Replacement.



而电影学院的孙欣老师,误在教材中把他写为automatic dialogue recording,(见《影视同期录音》中国电影出版社 p24,最后一行),而翻印也直接翻译成了“自动对白录音”。



这个错误是非常致命的,直接导致了很多人不在同期录音,到录音棚里面配音。因为这个翻译省略掉了,replacemant的意思。其实我把ADR翻译为自动对白重置,意思是根据现场的录音进行对白的修正录音工作。这个工作的目的是为了弥补现场录音的不足,而不是要省略掉同期录音。



黄英侠老师在《5.1路立体声影视录音操作》中没有更改这个错误,在第95页没有对adr进行任何解释,一带而过,忽视adr的意义等于误导学生。



姚国强老师虽然在《电影电视声音录音技术与艺术创作》这本书中正确的写出了ADR的全名,但是却翻译错了,翻译为---录音棚录音,其错误程度不言而喻。(见此书p102页)



希望三位老师纠正这个错误,这个错误非常误导您的学生。希望你们能采纳我的翻译建议。

原文我发布在周老师的网上,今天转过来。

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电影学院一个大三的弟弟来找我,问我,到底电影应该同期还是后期,到底Adr是什么意思?我向他解释了Adr的意思。我很惊异,科班出身怎么会不讲呢?所以我翻阅了他们的所有教科书,把有关教科书中提到Adr的地方逐一考证,发现全都讲错了,这令我感到震惊。

我最开始搞清楚这个意思是02年的时候,那是4年前的事情了。我希望真的多几个录音师真正了解adr的意思。千万不能让错误传播开啊。

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ADR stand for "Automated" or "Automatic" Dialog Replacement.  

Dialog that cannot be salvaged from production tracks must be  
re-recorded in a process called looping or ADR.   

Looping originally involved recording an actor who spoke lines in  
sync to "loops" of the image which were played over and over along  
with matching lengths of recording tape. ADR, though faster, is still  
painstaking work.   

An actor watches the image repeatedly while listening to the original production track on headphones as a guide. The actor then re-performs each line to match the wording and lip movements. Actors vary in their ability to achieve sync and to recapture the emotional tone of their performance.   

Marion Brando likes to loop because he doesn't like to  
freeze a performance until he knows its final context.  
(People have said that one reason he mumbles is to make the production sound  
unusable so that he can make adjustments in looping.)  

ADR is usually considered a necessary evil but there are moments when looping can be used not just for technical reasons but to add new character or interpretation to a shot. Just by altering a few key words or phrases an actor can change the emotional bent on a scene.

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这是一个著名的录音师说的关于Adr的问题,注意其中一句,演员在录音棚里面一般是没有台词或剧本的。

Randy Thom:  

The way ADR is treated and approached is symptomatic of how little respect sound gets in the movies. You march the actor into a cold sterile room and usually give them no time to get into the character or rehearse. They are  expected to just start performing a few minutes after they walk into the room. The emphasis is almost always on getting the dialogue in sync instead of getting the  right performance. Of course the majority of the actor's brain is then occupied with whether his lips are flapping at exactly the same rate as they were on the day that the camera was rolling. It is no wonder that most ADR is not very good. In the final mix, directors almost always prefer the production sound, even if it is noisy and distorted.
One of the things you do with ADR to make it sound more like production sound is to pitch it up. ADR is almost always delivered at a lower pitch because the actor doesn't have the energy he/she had on the set.  In the excitement of the shooting set the actor tends to talk louder and higher. In an ADR session, the director typically has to push the actor to get them anywhere near the level of vocal performance that came from the set.  

If the recording of ADR were treated more like shooting the movie it would almost certainly be better.  Recording it in more authentic environments (instead of studios) tends to help the actors' performance enormously.  Environmental noise is a problem whenever you record outside of a studio, but well worth the trade-off in my opinion

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非常棒啊!
虽然我不是做电影录音的,,但是还是非常感谢!特别感谢憧憧的执著精神!
我手里就有姚国强老师的《电影电视声音录音技术与艺术创作》,呵呵,没看到这个帖子以前还真没想到是翻译错了~~

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拨云见日,柳暗花明;顶了!

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顶!
虽然现在才看到,依然为憧憧的这种精神致谢!

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那么 MIDIFAN 杂志里写的 ADR 到底是对是错呢 ~

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我考北影时候就是老姚坐镇!!!!   那种东西得看英文原版好挖
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