BB: In an age where so many define success as having big houses and fast cars, how do you define success? ..
EJ: People think that's what it's about because that vision is still the forum and they are not necessarily living in that situation. If they live in that situation, they'll realize that's just not what it's about. There's nothing fulfilling about that. The more money you have, the more money you want; the more stuff you have, the more maintenance you have - there's nothing fulfilling about it. There's a lot of bands that chase records deals and when they get the deal, they think their problems are solved - but they have a whole new set of problems. There's nothing different - you're just switching the problems. Success is being able trying to do what you want to do and try to at least make a living at it and get by. You can always shoot for the stars but you have to count your blessings if you're at least able to get by, do well, do what you want to do and maybe be able to make somebody happy along the way. That's success.