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VIlabs发布新的三角钢琴音源Modern D

实力厂家时隔多年终于发布新的三角钢琴音源


A VIRTUAL MODEL D LIKE NO OTHER


Concept and key features of our latest concert grand piano library

The Modern D is our impeccable simulation of the world's most well-known concert grand. Sampled from a 2021 New York Steinway© Model D, chosen for its exquisite tone and immense power, the Modern D is our most ambitious and largest piano sample library ever. The library contains 34,615 pristine samples in five stereo microphone setups, all controlled from a beautiful, easy-to-use interface. Our new Natural Response method recreates the full dynamic range of each key within each mic, so every touch input generates the true and accurate response of the real piano. Many notes have over 50db of dynamic range and some sustains can last well over two minutes. This is the ultimate studio concert grand simulator, at your fingertips.

As always with VI Labs, 100% of the sound is sampled from the real piano, nothing is synthesized or faked at all. Legendary microphones like the M49 and 4006 were chosen to capture everything, including 2,500 release trails per mic, multi-layered sympathetic resonances, fully sampled Una Corda with its own release samples, plus sampled Muted Strikes, Half Pedal, Silent Strikes, along with Pedal and Key noises. With its massive range in both timbre and volume, this piano can do it all. Whether it's bright, mellow, or anywhere in between is entirely dependent on how it is played. Everything you want from the softest yet detailed pianissimos, up to the most aggressive growling fortissimos, the Modern D delivers. This truly is the pianist's virtual piano.

KEY FEATURES

34,615 samples composing 118GB wave data in a tidy 18GB file. Massive library, small footprint thanks to lossless compression and complex scripting. This also means fast loading and efficient CPU usage.

Five stereo phase-ligned menu-based microphones with interactive mic display. World class mics and gear with diverse perspectives cover every way of recording a concert grand all around, close and far.

Real deeply sampled resonance for both pedal down and sympathetic resonance types. Powerful scripting recreates real pedal resonance behavior adding complex depth and sustain to the tone, all fully adjustable.

Complete control of up to 4 pedals including sampled Una Corda. Repedal and adjustable Half pedal features included. Sostenuto, Una Corda, plus Muted Strikes all MIDI CC controllable make for a highly expressive piano.

New MIDI panel with unique split controls for both timbre and volume. High resolution discrete tables and controls allow custom curves for any response imaginable. Many presets included, or create your own.

2,500 release samples per mic including staccato releases that respond to the quickest playing, no articulations needed. Release samples capture the resonant ring of the Model D concert grand and are crucial for realism.

THE PIANO | THE SESSION
We sought out the best piano and quietest studio and found both - watch video

The Modern D is sampled from a very new Steinway© Model D concert grand with serial #616803. Built in 2021, less than a year old at the time of sampling, it was chosen for its superb tone and immense power with a strong fundamental on every note. And it has been perfected in tone and touch by a top concert technician over its lifetime which has brought out the full potential of this world class instrument. Single notes with over 50db of dynamic range and sustains lasting more than two minutes only happen with the best pianos. The tuning is superb and was maintained during all moments of the session by the same technician. This really is like the F1 car of concert grands.

With any acoustic piano sample, the recording space can impact the sound as much as anything else. For our modern sound, we needed an intimate studio big enough for the piano to fill out but not overpower, and detailed enough to record a pin drop from every mic. This was our quiestest studio ever which led us to create our most pristine samples yet. Room size matters too; dryness is needed to preserve fine detail especially for our staccato releases, and also just enough roominess for a sense of space and distance, without unwanted room reflections or standing waves. With this library, it really feels like you're at this piano in this room, your own virtual Model D simulator.

COMPLETE VIRTUAL PIANO STUDIO
Five menu-selectable mic setups with interactive mic display - watch video

From a whopping 39 individual mics recorded, we chose the best five stereo pairs from the session that fully capture this piano from several traditional perspectives, close to far, more or less hammer presence, all with a clean high end tone. Legendary mics like the U87 and M49, C414 and 4006 were chosen not only for their luxurious sound but for how perfectly they captured this piano with so much detail. The sound of a big grand varies considerably based on where mics are placed. These five stereo pairs were favored for their diversity in character and their placements, the balance of direct vs. room, and how how nicely they mix together.

When recording acoustic piano in the studio, there can be many options. Different mics and placements all offer various perspectives and character, never limited to one basic tone. Our mics are selected from the mixer menus, the interface shows each mic as set up on the real piano. Tones from close and intimate, wide and distant, with warmth or brilliance, all can be acheived with these mics. Load and mix the mics in any combination. Every mic is time-corrected and phase-aligned so even the distant Room mics have no extra delay; all mics respond and mix incredibly well in any combination.

REAL SYMPATHETIC RESONANCE
Both types pedal down and pedal up, entirely sample-based - watch video

Pianists are well accustomed to the sympathetic resonances that develop in acoustic pianos and their importance to the sustain and how chords resolve. These resonances blend the individual strings together as one instrument. Sympathetic Resonance is created when harmonically related keys are held down while others are played, and Pedal Resonance occurs as all strings vibrate together when notes are played while the sustain pedal is down. With the massive soundboard and long strings, the resonance effect is strong and adds body and bloom to the sustain.

Both pedal down and harmonic key pedal up resonances are sample-based and not synthesized in any way. We believe this important part of the piano's tone is best emulated only with samples from all mics. The Modern D features our new multi-layered resonance samples to deliver a complex evolving tone. Precisely sampled and scripted for both types of advanced resonance models, they respond naturally like the real thing. Resonance volume for both types is adjustable, and Sympathetic Resonance has its own polyphony setting.

REAL UNA CORDA SAMPLES
An essential part of a grand piano's tone, fully sampled - watch video

One distinct advantage grands have over uprights is their soft, or Una Corda pedal, which shifts the entire action to the right so a hammer normally hitting three strings only hits two, etc. Plus the strings are struck by a part of the hammer that's voiced differently to create a softer muted tone. The Modern D includes a fully sample-based Una Corda with its own release samples for a softer attack and a stronger release trail compared to the normal sustain. This adds another layer of tonal color only available in grand pianos. It's really like having two sets of hammers in the same piano that you can switch in real time.

A premium grand piano library would not be complete without real Una Corda samples as classical and other demanding pianists use it not only to lower the volume of a soft passage but also to get the unique variation in tonal color. It's not an effect that's easily mimicked or modeled since the changes in tone come from physical factors of the real piano such as the different hammer voicing, the aliquot string effect of the non-struck string, as well as the special tone of the release trails due to the different vibrations in the strings.

ADVANCED MIDI RESPONSE TOOLS
Innovative split controls for both velocity and volume response - watch video

There are two separate components which affect the dynamic response of a virtual piano: the velocity levels relating to the sample mapping for the timbre change from soft to hard, and the gain curve which affects the volume throughout the range. It's how a virtual piano interprets the incoming MIDI data and then decides what timbre and volume to output based on the curve settings. Our special MIDI customization panel has discrete curves and controls for both the timbre and volume which allows for complete customization of both aspects of the response.

A grand piano's response is just as important as the sound, and getting exactly what you expect is crucial in order to connect to the instrument. Dial in the perfect response for any MIDI controller or playing style, or choose a preset for specific or dramatic effects. Our advanced scripting and voicing methods deliver a precise and effortless response, and combined with expert sampling, yield a virtual piano with dynamic response that exactly matches the real piano. And you get full control of it all right here with our advanced MIDI panel.

COMPLETE PEDAL CONTROL
Real grand piano pedal features plus sampled half-pedal - watch video

Many things happen with edals when playing an acoustic piano. Hands must be free to play, so pedals are used in numerous ways. The most essential is the sustain, or damper pedal. The Modern D's sustain pedal supports basic on/off pedals with full repedaling capability and our True Pedal Action for resonance.
Using continuous control type pedals allows for the adustable sample-based Half Pedal feature, plus velocity-sensitive pedal noises for the most realistic pedaling experience. Full sostenuto as well as the Una Corda pedal are also supported completing the three typical piano pedals.

The Muted Strikes samples can also be controlled with the pedals or any CC. For example, set Sostenuto to some other unused CC besides 66, then set Muted Strikes to 66 and control with that pedal if sostenuto isn't needed. All four pedal options could be used together if enough pedals or controllers are available. Any pedal can be mapped to any MIDI CC, so any controller such as mod wheel, sliders or knobs can be used. Una Corda and Muted Strikes can also be activated directly on the interface with the 'S' Solo buttons. No other concert grand library offers this level of realtime customizable control.

MORE ADVANCED FEATURES
Control and customize everything. Click on each image to read more. - watch video

DETAILED RELEASE TRAILS
We use 2,500 Release Trail samples for every microphone that respond to velocity and time, including our true staccato strike releases.

MUTED STRIKE SAMPLES
Discrete samples taken of the strings muted by hand for a very short percussive attack. Switch from Muted Strikes to normal in real time.

COMPLETE SOUND CONTROL
Customize your mic mix further with tools like Tone, 3 Band EQ, Timbre Shift, Stereo Width along with 37 high quality convolution reverbs.

SMART PRESETS
Presets can load mic samples and settings or settings only for versatility. There are 20 factory presets included, or save and load your own.

KEY AND PEDAL NOISES
Sampled key noise on every key with authentic return thump, plus velocity-sensitive sampled pedal noises available on all pedals.

ADDITIONAL FEATURES
Silent Strikes, Repetition Strike feature, Tuning and Polyphony controls, plus a built-in interactive Info help panel complete the massive feature set.

LIST OF FEATURES
34,615 pristine samples, originally 118GB in wave, stored in a small 18GB library thanks to lossless FLAC compression.
100% sample-based, no modeling or synthesis used.
Very efficient use of RAM and CPU resources.
5 discrete microphone setups with a menu-based interactive interface

Fully sampled Una Corda Pedal for a soft ethereal tonal option

Fully sampled Sympathetic and Pedal Down Resonance

Adjustable Sympathetic Res
onance Polyphon

Repedal and True Pedal Action for realistic sustain pedal control

Half Pedal option is sa
mple-based and fully adjustable

Muted Strikes samples with a percussive attack and short decay

Customizable MIDI and Dynamics response
37 pristine Convolution Reverbs included with deep controls

2,500 release samples per microphone including true staccato trails

Full Imaging control with Stere
o Width, Tone, and Timbre Shift

Tuning panel includes many presets and supports micro-tuning

Easy computer-based activa
tion. Use on up to 3 machines at a time with no dongle required.

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

For complete step-by-step instructions and video on how to download and install the Modern D library and UVI Workstation, please visit our product support page here. This is to ensure you get the most accurate and latest install instructions as new product updates or any other changes may occur.
18GB free disk space (plus 15GB for the downloaded install file)

MacOS 10.14 Mojave to macOS 14 Sonoma (intel/arm) or Windows 10 to Windows 11 64-bit only
UVI Workstation 3.1.14 or greater (free download) or Falcon 3

Minimum CPU requirements: Intel Core i5
7200rpm hard drive (Solid State Drive or NVMe is preferred for best performance)

4GB of system RAM (8GB recommended)
VST, VST3, AAX and AU plug-ins plus standalone mode supported



$199



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#3 24-10-2 16:10
美版斯坦威D274
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#4 24-10-2 20:08
已经买了!飞来音代理!

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#5 24-10-3 03:09
非常高质量的音源,唯一缺点是看起来动态层略少,如果像vsl一样做到100层就是完美的演奏音源了
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:PianoTEQ127層力度

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#6 24-10-3 09:10
IS 那台法奇奥里308也是127力度。不是力度层越多越好,还得有staccato,release, una corda等分层。

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#7 24-10-3 11:54
只要采样能做得准确,力度层就是越多越好,越多声音变化越平滑演奏起来越容易跟手,所以pianoteq确实是现在最跟手的演奏音源,只不过他一个纯建模声音效果上还原度还不够高而已,罗兰那几个vpiano和pureacoustic建模琴是同样的问题
Una corda是三角钢琴左踏板,本质上是整个机械结构平移导致琴槌击打的琴弦减少,是一个柔音效果的概念,不是一个分层而是自己有自己对应的一套力度层
Release也不是一个分层,是你松开琴键damper回落产生的一系列效果,自己通常有自己一套分层
我不认为staccato单独做是个好主意,钢琴一个打击乐器设计上就不存在真正意义上的legato,单独做出来一个staccato反而才是限制演奏的准确性,和那些往钢琴音源里做roundrobin的都是一个性质的奇技淫巧
我也不是很支持vilabs这个琴上所有东西都采样的模式,resonance和damper靠采样做一定还是有更大的精度损失的,所以目前我还是更倾向常规音源sidechain进pianoteq获取效果的方法 本帖最后由 lptuy3 于 24-10-3 11:56 编辑

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#8 24-10-3 12:41
听起来感觉还可以。

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#9 24-10-3 21:07
lptuy3 发表于 24-10-3 11:54
只要采样能做得准确,力度层就是越多越好,越多声音变化越平滑演奏起来越容易跟手,所以pianoteq确实是现在 ...

自己最喜欢采样建模结合的,过渡平滑声音也没有电子感,还可以改细节参数
但是钢琴好像还没有这样做的?

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#10 24-10-3 21:20
采样就是錄音, 建模就是不錄音, 就等于是两种声音掺和在一起, 这样好吗?

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#11 24-10-3 21:37
采样+建模,早一点的零几年的GigaStudio CVP Kawai。然后Soundmagic提出并做了几套“混合钢琴”。现在Synthogy Ivory III German也是采样+建模。

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#12 24-10-3 23:25
wwessa 发表于 24-10-3 21:07
自己最喜欢采样建模结合的,过渡平滑声音也没有电子感,还可以改细节参数
但是钢琴好像还没有这样做的?

钢琴作为打击乐器大部分都是混合,采样的本身音源加建模的各种resonance之类效果。
Ivory 3就是更接近vwind那种采样加建模,不过做的很一般
VSL其实也是采样加建模,但几个效果的建模都做得不好,所以关掉效果音源进pianoteq,pianoteq作为效果器补充更多的声音细节
包括像noire之类都是有建模效果的

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#13 24-10-4 19:47
感觉加载可能会慢, 275有1.7万采样, 这个正好是两倍的量.
275沒有預設, 默认加载一个话筒, 感觉不出慢.

前有个界面比较相仿的waves pno, 切换预设有的预设是默认三个话筒打开那種, 是比較慢的, 而这个钢琴采样只有1.2万數量.

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#14 24-10-5 08:56
lptuy3 发表于 24-10-3 23:25
钢琴作为打击乐器大部分都是混合,采样的本身音源加建模的各种resonance之类效果。
Ivory 3就是更接近vw ...

我孤陋寡闻,楼主巨巨介绍之后就去听了一下,确实就感觉一般
主要是弱力度的音还是硬硬的,而且依然要40多G空间?
现在一想快20年前的Grand2就有建模那样调软硬的功能了
我倒是随便找个近几年出的就觉得挺好用,Chroma大概这都没人用过,调一调也能搞出不错的效果
不过VIlabs这些是我听过最接近真实乐器的

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#15 24-10-6 09:11
Modern D听感确实硬 看介绍说是2021年的新琴,也许是没开声?亦或它的Soft层不太够
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