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[求助] 麻烦大家帮我听一下

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#1 12-5-14 11:57

麻烦大家帮我听一下

两个文件,都是直接分轨导入DAW,然后都是没做任何动作直接导出的,请大家听一下觉得更喜欢哪个,以及为什么喜欢,当然也可以说不出原因,就说单纯的喜欢。
为了体现纯盲听,所以我先不说出两个的区别了。





事关我的工作,麻烦大家了!!

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#2 12-5-14 13:28
喜欢的第一个,第一感觉比第二个有活力,动态上要好些。第二个感觉有些平,似乎分段压缩过。
比较目的是啥?两个DAW分别是什么,你确定没做过微调?

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#3 12-5-14 13:49

回复 戴 在 #2 的 pid=3514734 的贴子

比较的目的是希望能确定一下自己的工作方式,两个都是没做任何动作的,只是导入分轨,然后导出并轨

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#4 12-5-14 13:53

回复 戴 在 #2 的 pid=3514734 的贴子

区别很细微,如果不比较两个都不错,各有优势

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#5 12-5-14 15:31
谢谢戴兄花时间听和回复!!

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#6 12-5-14 15:46
咱家喜欢第二个,说不出啥,食神哥!

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#7 12-5-14 18:09
2好太多了!

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#8 12-5-14 18:55
2的音量大些
我也不知道为什么

听的时候考虑一下这个因素

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#9 12-5-14 20:02
如果只談理論,數字音頻(Digital)對低電平的分析力會差一點。
右邊b的檔案聽起來應該會多一點細節。
我嘗試把音量調到比適中點低小許時,也真有這種感覺。

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#10 12-5-14 20:54

回复 dabeat 在 #7 的 pid=3515149 的贴子

我跟Dabeat哥一样,都是导入saw听,感觉B的瞬态要好些。

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#11 12-5-14 21:58
我在SOUNDFORGE裡聽


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#12 12-5-14 23:07
原帖himhui 于 12-5-14 21:58 发表
我在SOUNDFORGE裡聽
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為何用SOUNDFORGE ?


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是不是有甚麽玄機...

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#13 12-5-14 23:18
因為我肯定abyss 不可能用SF把分軌導出來   



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观众反应
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#14 12-5-16 11:28
这两天太忙,没来得及说清具体情况
两个文件中,一个是PT 10 NATIVE,一个是SAW

因为不涉及到pan和fader,也没有任何plugin,所以我觉得应该主要区别就在于算法了,不过PT有pan law 而saw没有

所以如果有例如钢琴这样的stereo文件就可能会有不同表现吧?


我个人感觉:PT的声音比较松弛,SAW的结实硬朗——结实硬朗不是说一定就好,比如说一个姑娘太硬朗就估计不容易获得市场。

但是坦率地说我不想评价谁是好谁是差,做这次比较只不过是想看盲听的结果,以考虑要不要忽悠老板买个PT玩玩。

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#15 12-5-16 13:21
在網上看了一些資料,  pan law 只影響mixing時的panning, 單一個stereo軌置中是不影響的, 如果是這樣, sam的表現就有點奇怪, 因為我把abyss的分軌用不同的daw都導一次, sam pro x(預置pan law是 0) 比其他的daw都要寬上很多.......


#Pan Law
(Doesn't apply to true stereo files.)

If all you are playing is a stereo file then changing pan law won't affect anything. pan law affects the level of mono signals panned other than hard left of right. You select pan law setting from project menu. This only effects the mix so it does not matter whether you've recorded with a different level and then change the setting during mixdown.

The differences between pan laws effect the volume only if a track is panned to CENTER. You can hear it from both speakers, but if the same track is panned hard left or right, the relative volume drops as the sound is coming from one speaker only.

Different pan laws define how much track volume is lowered when panned dead center. The track remains the same volume with a -3dB pan law, even if you pan the track over entire stereo field.

The basic rule is, that if amplification power is doubled, the increase in a- weighted sound pressure level is 3 dB (ln(20)). I.e. if You add another Marshall stack stack next to Your existing one and use same settings on both heads overall sound level is only 3dB higher.



Some engineers preferred to drop the center level a bit more, either because they liked the signal to seem louder as it moved out of the main center zone, or because signals that â?œclumped upâ?� around the center tended to â?œmonoizeâ?� the signal. So, dropping the centered level a little further emphasized the stereo effect somewhat.

Summing two identical sources will is a 6dB increase, making the 6dB panning law seem more intuitive, but the other factors you mentioned may be what keeps it from working well for everyone in practice. Summing two non-correlated sources gives a 3dB increase. I guess the 4.5 guys were shooting for a happy medium.

To see what the Pan Law is doing, try different settings with a mono channel panned hard left or hard right - there will be no difference in the mix. It is only when you start panning toward center that different pan laws give different levels. But any difference in level from one pan law setting to another can be countered by adjusting the fader.

Of course, if you change the Pan Law and do not adjust the mono panners and faders, you get a different mix.

Also realize that the pan law settings do not affect stereo tracks nor hard panned mono tracks.

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