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Fruityloops与reason比较之我观!

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#16 02-1-27 16:24
司令和军长不愧为级别高,说话,也极为具体到点。
从软件的基本感觉上,跟我的感觉差不多。虽然,我的reason 还在下载之中,但是,从界面上,就可以知道reason其实是有革命性的行动。所以,二位坚定了我使用的决心。

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#17 02-1-27 19:43
Finally, a software synth that's harder than hardware.
Software synths have been around for almost as long as the personal computer. But somehow, they’ve never really made the grade. Too demanding on computer resources. Too complex. Too limited. Indifferent sounding. Unplayable. Or simply not cool enough. But now, the first software synth to equal and surpass the power, glory and attitude of dedicated hardware has arrived. In fact, it’s a lot more than just a synth. It’s a complete music system.
The Age of Reason is finally here.


Analog synth, sampler, drum machine, ReCycle!-based loop player, mixer, effects, pattern sequencer, and more. As many of each as your computer can handle. Reason is an infinitely expandable MIDI studio on a CD-ROM, complete with its own realtime sequencer.

All the power of hardware, but without the hassle. Forget tripping on cables. Reason doesn’t need dusting. Picking up where you left off is as simple as turning the power on. When you save your work, your whole studio setup is stored along with your music. You can even include actual samples, loops and drum kits in the file, for easy web publishing or email distribution to other Reason users. For once, total recall is truly total.

And so is the sound. The audio quality is everything you would expect from the people behind ReCycle! and ReBirth. But more importantly, the instruments and effects are loaded with character and attitude. Reason will not just impress, but inspire you.

All the gear you need

Each unit in Reason’s virtual rack is edited from its own on-screen front panel. All the sliders, knobs, buttons and functions of the equivalent hardware are there. But more importantly, on several counts, Reason is better than hardware.

Need another piece of gear? Forget your overdraft and save yourself the bus fare to the music store. Choose what you need from the Create menu, and it appears in your rack, logically patched into the signal chain. If you ever wished you had eleven samplers, Reason is definitely for you.

Don’t like the routing? Press the Tab key, and the rack will turn over, revealing inputs, outputs, CV and Gate connections. Use the on-screen patch cords to set up complex routings and cross-device modulation patches. And if you run out of mixer channels, just create another mixer.

All the sounds you need. Reason ships with a large (500mb+) sound bank with all the sounds you need to get going. Hundreds of loops, drum kits and samples from e-LAB, hundreds of multisampled instruments from Dublab and hundreds of Synth patches will keep you busy for a while.

The studio of your dreams is just a few mouse clicks away.

Reason adapts to you

Use Reason the way you want to:

As a self-contained synth studio system. Everything you need is there, including a fast and flexible sequencer with powerful, dedicated event editors for each type of device.
Using ReWire, patched into and synched with your audio sequencer. Process Reason’s audio output with plug-in effects and mix it with your hard disk tracks. With Reason in ReWire mode, its instruments are automatically patched into the mixer in Cubase VST. Integration is seamless.
As a virtual synth rack with your MIDI sequencer. Reason’s devices can be handled in exactly the same way as hardware.
Performance and latency

Reason is completely native. All sound is generated by your computer’s CPU. No special hardware is needed, most reasonably current PC's or Mac's will do, provided they have sound circuits. ASIO, MME, DirectX and SoundManager support means that Reason is compatible with just about every sound card on the planet.

Reason performs. On a modest computer, the number of devices and effects you can use simultaneously will be limited, but Reason will still run happily on most contemporary setups. At the other end of the scale: a PIII PC or a G3 or G4 Mac and a high-quality soundcard with ASIO drivers will give you a monster rack, pro quality audio and a latency equal to hardware.

More reasons

There is more, of course. A lot more. Like a database for effortless file handling. AIFF and Wave export. A ReBirth Input machine for integration between Reason and ReBirth. Comprehensive MIDI remote control. And so on.

The graphic event editors in Reason’s sequencer are specific to the type of device the track controls. For example, the drum machine editor has a separate lane for pattern changes, and when editing a REX file player track (above), the sample slices are displayed to the left, etc. And if you don’t like the default setup, you can customize the editors


Reason’s devices not only perform like hardware, they look and feel like it too. All front panel controls are live, move them while the sequencer is running, and the movement will be recorded.

Need more reasons to listen to Reason? Check out the screenshot, listen to the voice of reason or read more.

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#18 02-1-27 19:52

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#19 02-1-27 21:29
我承认REASON的外表是挺能够震住人的,一字排开的,感觉象使用硬件一样,但是这样做有必要吗,带来的是使用上的不便。还有许多人从FL的外表和易上手性,就断定这是一个初级的软件,功能有局限性之类的,其实他们并没有好好的用过。我有很长一段时间是打算弃FL而用REASON的,也做了些东西,但是我发现在FL中能够轻松搞定的东西在REASON中做却要大费周章,还有REWIRE我也试过了,也许我的CPU不够劲把,怎么也弄不好,于是最后我还是回到了FL。我听说REASON能做交响乐,但是我想很少有人会用它去做交响乐吧。FL能做的音乐范围是相对狭窄,但是它从来就不是一个号称自己能包罗所有的软件,至少在它力所能级的范围内,它的功能的强大和使用的便捷是毋庸质疑的。

的确争论是没什么意义的,如果没有用过的人,还是先去都好好的用一下再自己比较吧。

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#20 02-1-30 04:12
我认为    REASON   比  水果   好得多.....

我本来就是个  玩硬件的...   刚开始玩软件的时候是玩 FL 的,但玩了一个多

月,得到了REASON,才知道 FL 太儿戏了,感觉就像 玩手枪(REASON) 和玩 水枪(FL) 的区别,摸惯硬件的我 望着电脑里面的 REASON 简直乐呆了, 一台电脑就

能像拥有十几万硬件 的愿望 不是梦,  实现了......................

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#21 02-1-30 04:21

Re: Fruityloops与reason比较之我观!

最初由 made 发布
[B]这几天玩了一下reason1.01,觉得这东西还不错!但是跟Fruityloops相比,
我个人认为,FL比reason要更好!更实用!更具有价值!!
    首先,在声音的主观感觉上,FL的声音更丰满,比reason要好听一些!
reason合成出来的声音总觉得虚虚的,好像是给小孩子玩的!
    其次,在调用设备上,FL功能强大,它通过midi out 可以调用cakewalk所能调用的设备,
比如你可以调用外部的音源设备和内部的软音源,像什么Giga,reality,
yamaha100等等!如果你的声卡是sblive,还能调用sf2.
这样用FL创作的空间是非常大!而reason只能调用自己几台合成器,远远没有FL那么强大!!
     再次,在外挂程序上,FL支持dxi,vsti,插件是软件合成器,而reason却不能!音色扩展比不上FL!
     再再次,在音频输出方面,。。。。。。。



明天再说吧! [/B]


玩 FL 的人别 以为 REASON  能做的效果少, 其实一点也不少, 不过是你会不会用而已.........

玩 硬件的人     都知道 .  硬件的 连线方法是可以改变许多 音效的,

而  MIXER 和 效果器 的前置    和  后置    出来的 音效     也是完全不同的...........

还有...    如果你玩果 硬件,     就会知道 机器后面 有很多不同的插孔, 你有研究过 他们吗>>?? 我想你是没有吧..........

每个  机器 与  机器  连不同的   插孔   有不同的效果,    连一条线 与连2条线的效果也不同.........

这你知道吗?????????

FL  能做到这点吗????    我用 FL 的时间 不长   不知道有没有

但 REASON   是绝对  的有........

而且全部能用........

你用过就会 觉得.............REASON       太 棒   了......>>>>!!@@@@

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#22 02-1-30 08:41
好好.大家都发表了自己的观点哦.....
不过我觉得当软件能够使用采样和插件音源后,我们就不能再粗略的说"某软件声音电子味怎样怎样......."之类的话了.reason调入采样可以做jazz,并不是说fl就不能. 有人说reason合成器好,可是fl也可以调入众多vsti,dxi.........
我想关键可能是在于工作方式和理念的不同. 这个就是要看个人喜好了.(支持fl的很多朋友也是很习惯于pattern工作方式吧)
我承认我支持fl.我觉得大家进行讨论的结果并不重要.(我觉得不可能通过讨论就能改变其它人的想法)重在参与的过程吧.

另外多说一点.....
fl也不能说是小巧.它只是提供了一个平台,给了一个更开放的空间.让大家可以自由选择自己喜欢的插件(音源,效果)

fl,reason 没有绝对的好也没有绝对的不好,选择你所需要的才是最好.
为各位参与讨论的同志,尤其具有学术精神的jonseng鼓掌(哗啦哗啦~~~~~~)

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#23 02-2-1 13:48
我得回去好好弄一弄Reason了!!

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#24 02-2-1 16:26
reason对我来说最大的优点在于直观的音序器
automation,pattern,notes都在一块显示,
一看就知道哪里有什么的控制信息
而且,他的旋钮全部在面板上

其次就是patches.
reason给了一个非常好的500多兆的音色库
而且他还有做好的patches可供下载
音色利用——尤其是编曲时的快速选择沾边的音色——非常方便

而fruityloops的automation藏在pattern里,不太直观吧
而且采样之类的都是用的原始文件。
要修改一些才行呢。

其实我这么说也不全面。
各有所好嘛~~

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#25 02-2-1 17:27
打击一下Fl用户,没其他意思

有消息说,Fruityloops的开发公司千方百计的在找已出版的使用FL制作的作品,并且此消息在其主页上放了半年之久,后来呢?不了了之。

而reason1.01已经推出不少时间,今年又推出了OS X版本。用户反映很不错。
另外,据说FSOL 2001年的专辑其中的一些作品明确使用Reason+Lap(Cubase?)

您不会连FSOL是谁都不知道吧?!

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#26 02-2-1 18:25
原来Reason也这么好的啊....

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#27 02-2-1 18:52
最初由 malisa2 发布
[B]打击一下Fl用户,没其他意思

有消息说,Fruityloops的开发公司千方百计的在找已出版的使用FL制作的作品,并且此消息在其主页上放了半年之久,后来呢?不了了之。

您不会连FSOL是谁都不知道吧?! [/B]


多谢您的打击,

fsol是什么?介绍一下好吗?我真的不知道
谢谢


其实有很多音乐人都在用fruityloops,
这里就有fruityloops的作品阿
大家欣赏一下,很好的!

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#28 02-2-1 19:09
future sound of london

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#29 02-2-6 01:21
最初由 bxyc 发布
[B]我承认REASON的外表是挺能够震住人的,一字排开的,感觉象使用硬件一样,但是这样做有必要吗,带来的是使用上的不便。还有许多人从FL的外表和易上手性,就断定这是一个初级的软件,功能有局限性之类的,其实他们并没有好好的用过。我有很长一段时间是打算弃FL而用REASON的,也做了些东西,但是我发现在FL中能够轻松搞定的东西在REASON中做却要大费周章,还有REWIRE我也试过了,也许我的CPU不够劲把,怎么也弄不好,于是最后我还是回到了FL。我听说REASON能做交响乐,但是我想很少有人会用它去做交响乐吧。FL能做的音乐范围是相对狭窄,但是它从来就不是一个号称自己能包罗所有的软件,至少在它力所能级的范围内,它的功能的强大和使用的便捷是毋庸质疑的。

的确争论是没什么意义的,如果没有用过的人,还是先去都好好的用一下再自己比较吧。 [/B]


REASON  的确可以做交响乐。。。。。。。

你说得很正确。。。。。 REASON  能做的音乐范围比FL  大。。。。。

FL 比 REASON  的 功能 要多一些。。。。

现在 连REASON 和  FL  都可以 用MIDI 连接了。。。。

实在太好了。。。。

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#30 02-4-7 00:14

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