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[新闻] Spitfire發佈HZ Strings

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#16 18-3-1 13:24
三个演示完美避开legato,唯独一首demo3的legato。。emmm还行吧。。一贯不满意喷火的legato
声音没得说,喷火简直是个话筒贩子
观众反应
:话筒贩子...

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#17 18-3-1 15:17
官网写:Recommended: 2.5GHz i7 (quad-core), 16GB RAM, 184GB free SSD space
推荐的配置看起来没那么吓人,至少不像HZ Piano那样简直失了智

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#18 18-3-1 15:36
喷火这是出了自己的采样器软件了啊。。。。

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#19 18-3-1 16:10
dadangjiade 发表于 18-3-1 15:36
喷火这是出了自己的采样器软件了啊。。。。

用自家采样器是好事,呵呵呵。


不知道怎么个加密法。。。。

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#20 18-3-1 16:47
不超过200G还是可以接受的

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#21 18-3-1 17:31
spitfire这个如果要买,要不要带硬盘?网络下载好不好使?谁买过spitfire正版,来说说?

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#22 18-3-1 23:36
tbulls 发表于 18-3-1 17:31
spitfire这个如果要买,要不要带硬盘?网络下载好不好使?谁买过spitfire正版,来说说?

他们家的下载慢的相当可以,之前出的BT差点下不来退货了

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#23 18-3-2 00:55
aa_cheng 发表于 18-3-1 23:36
他们家的下载慢的相当可以,之前出的BT差点下不来退货了

所以还是得加选硬盘寄送服务?

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#24 18-3-2 07:04
tbulls 发表于 18-3-2 00:55
所以还是得加选硬盘寄送服务?

我觉得不用,不着急使得话慢慢拖呗,早晚能下来,而且晚上比白天速度要快要稳

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#25 18-3-2 12:06
有没有下手的?

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#26 18-3-2 12:33
moon51025 发表于 18-3-2 12:06
有没有下手的?

我准备下手。不过VSL论坛的德国大师们对这款产品狂喷不已。

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#27 18-3-2 12:34
aa_cheng 发表于 18-3-2 07:04
我觉得不用,不着急使得话慢慢拖呗,早晚能下来,而且晚上比白天速度要快要稳

需要挂VPN下载吗?还是可以直连?

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#28 18-3-2 13:32
tbulls 发表于 18-3-2 12:33
我准备下手。不过VSL论坛的德国大师们对这款产品狂喷不已。

哪个论坛?能把地址私密下吗哥们

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#29 18-3-2 14:11
棋王 发表于 18-3-2 13:32
哪个论坛?能把地址私密下吗哥们

vienna的论坛,几个鬼佬大师在说这款产品就是个pad-like的玩意儿。

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#30 18-3-2 14:13
本帖最后由 伊拉拉塔lala 于 18-3-2 14:18 编辑
棋王 发表于 18-3-2 13:32
哪个论坛?能把地址私密下吗哥们

https://www.vsl.co.at/community/ ... ings-I?=#post269990


[tr]Posted onThu, Mar 01 2018 16:00
[tr]by[tr]yilalatavsl
[tr]Joined on Tue, Nov 03 2015, Posts[tr]23

https://www.你吐吧.com/watch?v=hmCzEHwMIKQ




[tr]Posted onThu, Mar 01 2018 17:06
[tr]by[tr]Pixelpoet1985
[tr]Joined on Fri, Dec 23 2016, Germany, Posts[tr]65

[tr]Agreed, as well. This "more is better" approach is unnecessary. And I agree on this pad-like sound, too. With this ridiculous number of players you can't really make professional sounding orchestration, in my opinion. I don't like Hans Zimmer scores, I am a John Williams' fanboy, and I would always prefer his complex scores. For this "epic" kind of stuff this new llibrary may be sufficient. But "epic" lies also in the orchestration. I dislike this "trend" and I really hope that there will be more composers like John Williams in the future. At the moment we have very boring movie scores without any motifs/themes really, and, which sound all the same to me.

[tr]The only thing which I like is the UI by ustwo. I am a media designer and really are in this kind of stuff. Unfortuantely, Synchron Player looks a bit "old" compared to this. But in the end it's all about the functionalities and the sound.




[tr]Posted onThu, Mar 01 2018 21:07
[tr]by[tr]JimmyHellfire
[tr]Joined on Tue, Dec 24 2013, Posts[tr]238

[tr]@fahl5, I had similar thoughts. I do like Spitfire, although I can't use their products for everything I like to do, as most of their libraries have this massive ambience baked into them, and as you said: so much is geared towards playing long, slow harmonies until someone in the back stars falling asleep. And it's always all these different obscure "longs" variations -  super sul tasto, con sordino sul ponticello, no rosin flautando, tremolo with your teeth and a sock stuffed under the string  ... while in reality, sample libraries still struggle the most with rhythm.

[tr]Therefor, these new HZ strings left me moderately unimpressed. Big name, big sound, big data, but beneath the surface, the scope of what I believe I could express using what it comes with in terms of articulations seems typically limited, albeit the sound of course is great.

[tr]From that perspective, I don't see what kind of sense it was supposed to make to bring it up here. Synchron Strings covers completely different ground and is definitely suited better for my purposes.




[tr]Posted onFri, Mar 02 2018 01:51
[tr]by[tr]stephen limbaugh
[tr]Joined on Tue, Feb 23 2016, Los Angeles, Posts[tr]57

[tr]Having hung out recently with about a dozen low budget guys here in LA, (who do lots of shorts, ultra low-budget features, student films, etc), the Spitfire stuff is perfect for them, especially anything with "Hans Zimmer" in the branding.

[tr]Most of them come from pop/rock mid-2000s or late-90s bands and have no real knowledge of how an orchestra works.  If you show them a picture of an english horn and ask them to identify if it is a single reed or a double reed, they'll ask "what do you mean? Like, how does this instrument read?"

[tr]The Spitfire stuff is good for them because they can play block chords ofvi - IV - I - V[tr], slap on some takio drums in a 3-3-2 rhythmic grouping, and it sounds "cinematic" to a client who doesn't know any better.

[tr]VSL on the otherhand is for composers who need a tool that has a extensive expressive range.  I foolishly bought the Spitfire Symphonic Brass a couple years and absolutely hate it now that I know what I'm doing with sample libraries.  When I tested it and could play the horn solo inTill Eulenspiegel[tr].  Months later I tried to playPetrushka[tr]with the trumpet and it's simply not possible.  Most things in the brass literature are not possible with Spitfire.

[tr]With the exception of works requiring extended techniques, the Synchron series has yet to show me that it isn't capable of rendering any passage from the classical repertoire.  I believe it engenders composers to rise to the challenge of being able to make use of that full expressive range.  Technology is leading the way, artistically, so far this millennium, and it is a benefit to us all.




[tr]Posted onFri, Mar 02 2018 03:13
[tr]by[tr]William
[tr]Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts[tr]4895

[tr]That is a good point about the huge string sections -- I am now becoming tired of the "epic" sound and in fact believe it instantly screams "Sampled!"   Also it is very generic sounding and less expressive because of the size.

[tr]I am thinking about this because I am working on a feature film score that is for a dramatic but small-scale low budget film.  In the past, with a live orchestra, this would be scored with a small ensemble, almost chamber, but nowadays the usual is to have  giant sampled string ensembles.  There is a clash that is weirdly inappropriate, so I am trying to figure out a small, even chamber sized ensemble, which has the added advantage of being more intimate, expressive sounding.





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