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SAW 的内在美,有谁可知?

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#46 10-7-10 11:57
saw考古研究工作就此展开

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#47 10-8-14 11:22
原帖祝你平安 于 10-7-10 09:07 发表
记得在97年的时候我就在一个4X86的电脑中安装了一个SAW2.0的软件,DOS6.22操作系统,40M硬盘,4M内存,当时打开这个软件感觉很震撼,漂亮的界面,启动速度之快,运行速度之快,另我非常震撼,当时真的不会使用,鼓捣 ...


这感觉是不是像港片里的财神爷?不管有用没用,摆在屋里,每天拜一拜,或者看一看,心理就舒坦?

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#48 10-12-16 23:50
其实不只是软件~

现在的各大宿主就像是普通网游~

saw就像是星际二~没有快捷键~怎么活?~~~

一个鼠标是完成不了一个战役的~~~~~这就是我用saw之后的感想~~~

当然~这个比喻可能不恰当~~~

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#49 10-12-17 01:12
原帖殇小谨 于 10-12-16 23:50 发表
其实不只是软件~

现在的各大宿主就像是普通网游~

saw就像是星际二~没有快捷键~怎么活?~~~

一个鼠标是完成不了一个战役的~~~~~这就是我用saw之后的感想~~~

当然~这个比喻可能不恰当~~~


SAW沒有快捷鍵?!

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#50 10-12-17 12:04
原帖爛手上帝 于 10-12-17 01:12 发表
SAW沒有快捷鍵?!


算了吧, 這和"最强包絡線" 道理一樣.
我沒有看過其他軟件能夠除了功能豐富的快捷鍵外,
還有最靈活的 mouse 和 Alt,Shift,Ctrl 的組合,
當實際作業時,是超强的操作介面吧,
但..............和包絡線一樣, 不知道它的存在 ?

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#51 10-12-17 12:06
原帖dabeat 于 10-12-17 12:04 发表


算了吧, 這和"最强包絡線" 道理一樣.
我沒有看過其他軟件能夠除了功能豐富的快捷鍵外,
還有最靈活的 mouse 和 Alt,Shift,Ctrl 的組合,
當實際作業時,是超强的操作介面吧,
但..............和包絡線一樣, 不 ...


我到現在也不知道什麼叫“包絡線”!

中文有這些詞彙?!

不知道是哪個化閪發明的!很想打鑊甘嘅佢!

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#52 10-12-17 12:07
大家來溫習一下.....

Key:        A

Operation:        Toggles Automation Mode On/Off
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal/Select Mode) | All Mixer Views


Key:        Ctrl-A

Operation:        Select all entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode only)

Key:        B
Operation:        Mark begin of  marked area
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) | SoundFile View

Key:        Shift-B

Operation:        Move the beginning of an existing marked area to the current cursor position and automatically shift the end position to maintain the same marked area size.

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) | SoundFile View

Key:        Ctrl-B
Operation:        Mark an MT Entry as a marked area
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Alt-B
Operation:        Mark an MT Entry including softedges as a marked area
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-B
Operation:        Mark the entire soundfile as a marked area
Window:        SoundFile View

Key:        C
Operation:        Clear Marked Area

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) | SoundFile View

Key:        C
Operation:        Clear  Selection
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-C
Operation:        Copy Marked Area data to new region and select ready for a paste operation with [Insert] or [Shift-Insert].
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        D
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and delete the new entry to the left of the cursor position on the current hot track pulling following butt-spliced entries forward

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-D
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and delete the new entry to the left of the cursor position on all tracks pulling following butt-spliced entries forward
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Alt-D
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and delete the new entry to the right of the cursor position on the current hot track pulling following butt-spliced entries forward

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-Alt-D
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and delete the new entry to the right of the cursor position on all tracks pulling following butt-spliced entries forward
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        E
Operation:        Mark end of marked area
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) | SoundFile View

Key:        Shift-E

Operation:        Move the ending of an existing marked area to the current cursor position and automatically shift the begin position to maintain the same marked area size.

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) | SoundFile View

Key:        Ctrl-E
Operation:        Mark an MT Entry as a marked area
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Alt-E
Operation:        Mark an MT Entry including softedges as a marked area
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-E
Operation:        Mark the entire soundfile as a marked area
Window:        SoundFile View

Key:        F
Operation:        Fade up or down to the next automation change or create a fade stretched within a marked area

Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)

Key:        Shift-F
Operation:        Reverse fade defaults and force a ramp up
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)

Key:        K
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and keep both new entries at the cursor position on the current hot track
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-K
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and keep both new entries at the cursor position on all tracks

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        L
Operation:        Toggle Live Mode on and off
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | All Mixer Views

Key:        M
Operation:        Split An MT Entry and mark new entry on the left of the cursor position on current hot track for Select Mode
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        Ctrl-M
Operation:        Split An MT Entry and mark new entry on the left of the cursor position for Select Mode on all tracks

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        N
Operation:        Create a new region from a marked area
Window:        SoundFile View

Key:        O
Operation:        Activate Offset Mode
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal/Select Mode) | All Mixer Views

Key:        O
Operation:        Exit Offset Mode and apply offsets to all affected automation entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Offset Mode) | All Mixer Views

Key:        Ctrl-O
Operation:        Exit Offset Mode and cancelling all changes and leaving all automation in original state
Window:        MultiTrack (Offset Mode) | All Mixer Views

Key:        Shift-O
Operation:        Enter Relative Offset Mode
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal/Select Mode) | All Mixer Views

Key:        Q
Operation:        Activate a Cue Location command at the current cursor position
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)

Key:        Shift-Q
Operation:        Activate a Cue Location / PreLoad command at the current cursor position
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)

Key:        Ctrl-Q
Operation:        Activate a Cue Location / Play command at the current cursor position
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)

Key:        R
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and remove the new entry to the left of the cursor position on the current hot track without affecting following entries

Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-R
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and remove the new entry to the left of the cursor position on all tracks without affecting following entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Alt-R
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and remove the new entry to the right of the cursor position on the current hot track without affecting following entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-Alt-R
Operation:        Split an MT Entry and remove the new entry to the right of the cursor position on all tracks without affecting following entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        R
Operation:        Refresh peakdata information for currently open soundfile
Window:        SoundFile View

Key:        S
Operation:        Activate Select Mode clearing all previous entry selections
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        S
Operation:        Toggle Select Mode Off
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Ctrl-S
Operation:        Save the current session
Window:        Global

Key:        Shift-S
Operation:        Activate Select Mode pre-selecting the last group of selected entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        T
Operation:        Transfer MT region to SoundFile View Setting SF Device Out to match the assignment routing of the entry's track
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)

Key:        Ctrl-T
Operation:        Toggle between current and last selected time display mode
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)

Key:        Shift-T
Operation:        Transfer cursor to stopped playback position when zoomed past 256 samples per pixel level
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View

Key:        U
Operation:        Update nearest MT Entry boundary to current cursor position
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        U
Operation:        Update currently selected region based on soundfile data
Window:        SoundFile View

Key:        Shift-U
Operation:        With the cursor positioned near the end boundary of the left entry of a butt-spliced pair, this will Update the end boundary to the current cursor position and adjust following butt-spliced positions to remain attached
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        Ctrl-U
Operation:        Update nearest MT Entry boundary to current cursor position, adjusting butt-spliced boundaries to keep overall time sync unaffected
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        V
Operation:        Toggle View Filter On/Off
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)

Key:        W
Operation:        Toggle the waveform display On/Off       
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal/Select Mode)       

Key:        X
Operation:        Create an automatic crossfade in a marked area across two butt-spliced entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Z
Operation:        Locate the nearest ZeroCross position
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View

Key:        >
Operation:        Increment the Hot Track fader .25 db
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)

Key:        Ctrl >
Operation:        Go forward one Redo level
Window:        Global

Key:        <
Operation:        Decrement the Hot Track fader .25 db
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)       

Key:        Ctrl <
Operation:        Go back one Undo level  
Window:        Global

        *The Greater Than/Less Than (< >) symbols are used as a visual reference. Do not use the Shift key modifier with these keys.

Key:        =
Operation:        Center the cursor in the MultiTrack And SoundFile views
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View

Key:        / (Numpad)
Operation:        Change the slope value for all entries within a marked range on the current hot track or selected tracks in milliseconds
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)

Key:        * (Numpad)
Operation:        Create a forced snapshot (undo) of current session
Window:        MultiTrack

Key:        Backspace
Operation:        Snap selected entries to the current cursor position using the front of the key entry as the location reference
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Backspace
Operation:        Activate ReTake to Last Record Position option
Window:        Record Remote Transport

Key:        Backspace
Operation:        Snap marked automation entries or marked Control Track entries to the current cursor position
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation/Normal Mode)       

Key:        Shift-Backspace
Operation:        Snap selected entries to the current cursor position using the back of the key entry as the location reference
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Shift-Backspace
Operation:        Activate ReTake to Current Cursor Position option
Window:        Record Remote Transport

Key:        Ctrl-Backspace
Operation:        Copy selected entries and snap new copies to the current cursor position using the front of the key entry as the location reference
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-Backspace
Operation:        Activate ReTake All option
Window:        Record Remote Transport

Key:        Ctrl-Shift-Backspace
Operation:        Copy selected entries and snap new copies to the current cursor position using the back of the key entry as the location reference
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Delete
Operation:        Split & remove all entries in a marked area without affecting following entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) - Marked Area       

Key:        Delete
Operation:        Delete an individual MT Entry without affecting following entries
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Delete
Operation:        Remove selected regions and all associated MT Entries without affecting following entries on the timeline
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode) |        Regions View       

Key:        Delete
Operation:        Clear all automation in an MT Marked Area on current hot track or selected tracks
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)

Key:        Shift-Delete
Operation:        Split & remove all entries in a marked area pulling butt-spliced entries forward
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) - Marked Area

Key:        Shift-Delete
Operation:        Delete an MT Entry pulling butt-spliced entries forward
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        Shift-Delete
Operation:        Remove selected regions and all associated MT Entries pulling all following butt-spliced entries forward on the timeline
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode) |        Regions View

Key:        Ctrl-Delete
Operation:        Split & remove all entries in a marked area pulling all following entries forward
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode) - Marked Area       

Key:        Ctrl-Delete
Operation:        Delete an MT Entry pulling all following entries forward
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        Ctrl-Delete
Operation:        Remove selected regions and all associated MT Entries pulling all following entries forward on the timeline
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode) |        Regions View

Key:        Ctrl-Delete
Operation:        Clear all automation in an MT Marked Area on all tracks
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)

Key:        End
Operation:        Jump to last channel
Window:        Full View Mixer Window | Zoom Mixer Window | Wide Mixer Window

Key:        End
Operation:        Jump cursor to session end position
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        End
Operation:        Select all entries to the end of the current track starting with last selected entry
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)

Key:        End
Operation:        Selects all entries on the current Hot Track if no entries are selected.
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        End
Operation:        Jump to end of soundfile
Window:        Soundfile View       

Key:        End
Operation:        Select last region in list
Window:        Regions View       

Key:        End
Operation:        Select last entry in list
Window:        Library View       

Key:        Ctrl-End
Operation:        Select all entries to the end of the current track and down across all following tracks starting with last selected entry
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Shift-End
Operation:        Select all entries from the last selected entry to the end of the set of butt-spliced entries on current track
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Enter
Operation:        Initiate normal record when record meters are active
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View | All Mixer Views

Key:        Enter
Operation:        Initiate playback preload when record meters are not active
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | All Mixer Views

Key:        Enter
Operation:        Punch-in and out during SRP
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | All Mixer Views

Key:        Enter
Operation:        PreLoad playback or stop
Window:        Control Track View

Key:        Home
Operation:        Jump to first channel
Window:        Full View Mixer Window | Zoom Mixer Window | Wide Mixer Window

Key:        Home
Operation:        Jump cursor to zero locate position
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Home
Operation:        Select all entries to the beginning of the current track starting with last selected entry
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Home
Operation:        Jump to beginning of soundfile
Window:        SoundFile View

Key:        Home
Operation:        Select first region in list
Window:        Regions View

Key:        Home
Operation:        Select first entry in list
Window:        Library View

Key:        Shift-Home
Operation:        Set current cursor position as the new zero locate position
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Shift-Home
Operation:        Select all entries from the last selected entry to the beginning of the set of butt-spliced entries on current track
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Ctrl-Home
Operation:        Reset the zero locate position to zero
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)       

Key:        Ctrl-Home
Operation:        Select all entries to the beginning of the current track and down across all following tracks starting with last selected entry       
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)

Key:        Insert
Operation:        Add selected regions to the MultiTrack at the current cursor position down sequential tracks
Window:        Regions View Window ?Library View Windows

Key:        Insert
Operation:        Insert selection automation into the MultiTrack at the cursor position
Window:        Automation Gallery View Window (Automation Mode in MT)

Key:        Insert
Operation:        Insert selected entries at the current cursor position using the front of the key entry as the location reference, splitting and overwriting any existing entries that conflict
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)

Key:        Shift-Insert

Operation:        Insert selected regions to the MultiTrack at their original time-stamped cursor positions down sequential tracks, and overwrite any underlying entries.

Window:        Regions View Window       

Key:        Shift-Insert

Operation:        Insert selected regions to the MultiTrack at the current cursor position down sequential tracks, and overwrite any underlying entries.

Window:        Library View Window       

Key:        Shift-Insert
Operation:        Insert selected entries at the current cursor position using the back of the key entry as the location reference, splitting and overwriting any existing entries that conflict
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Ctrl-Insert
Operation:        Add selected library entries to the current Hot Track back to back
Window:        Library View Window

Key:        Ctrl-Insert
Operation:        Copy selected entries and insert the new copies at the current cursor position using the front of the key entry as the location reference, splitting and overwriting any existing entries that conflict
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-Shift-Insert
Operation:        Copy selected entries and insert the new copies at the current cursor position using the back of the key entry as the location reference, splitting and overwriting any existing entries that conflict
Window:        MultiTrack (Select Mode)       

Key:        Alt-Insert

Operation:        Insert selected regions to the MultiTrack at the current cursor positions down sequential tracks, and overwrite any underlying entries.

Window:        Regions View Window       

Key:        Page Down
Operation:        Scroll to previous console section
Window:        Zoom Mixer View | Exploded View Mixer Window

Key:        Page Up
Operation:        Scroll to next console section
Window:        Zoom Mixer View | Exploded View Mixer Window

Key:        Page Down
Operation:        Decrease Track Height
Window:        MultiTrack View

Key:        Page Up
Operation:        Increase Track Height
Window:        MultiTrack View

Key:        Shift-Page Down
Operation:        Decrease waveform scaling factor
Window:        MultiTrack View | SoundFile View

Key:        Shift-Page Up
Operation:        Increase waveform scaling factor
Window:        MultiTrack View | SoundFile View

Key:        Ctrl-Shift-Page Down
Operation:        Decrease waveform scaling factor to minimum
Window:        MultiTrack View | SoundFile View

Key:        Ctrl-Shift-Page Up
Operation:        Increase waveform scaling factor to maximum
Window:        MultiTrack View | SoundFile View

Key:        Spacebar
Operation:        Toggle playback On/Off
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View | Regions View | Library View |        Control Track View | All Mixer Views       

Key:        Spacebar
Operation:        Initiate SRP when record meters are active
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | All Mixer Views

Key:        Spacebar
Operation:        Stop normal record when record meters are active
Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View | All Mixer Views

Key:        Shift-Spacebar
Operation:        Initiate playback of marked area
Window:        SoundFile View

Key:        Ctrl-Spacebar
Operation:        Initiate playback and loop of marked area
Window:        SoundFile View        

Key:        Tab
Operation:        Navigate the MultiTrack entries while keeping the current mixer view window active.
Window:        Full View Mixer Window | Zoom Mixer Window | Wide Mixer Window

Key:        Tab
Operation:        Jump cursor to next MT Entry boundary
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Tab
Operation:        Link selected region to all MT Entries that reference it
Window:        Regions View Window

Key:        Shift-Tab
Operation:        Jump cursor to previous MT Entry boundary
Window:        MultiTrack (Normal Mode)

Key:        Shift-Tab
Operation:        Reset the usage count to the first entry usage
Window:        Regions View Window

Key:        Ctrl-Tab
Operation:        Snap to next automation change on current hot track
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)

Key:        Ctrl-Shift-Tab
Operation:        Snap to previous automation change on current hot track
Window:        MultiTrack (Automation Mode)       

Key:        F1-F12
Operation:        Recall workspace view

Window:        Global       


Key:        Shift F1-F12
Operation:        Save workspace view

Window:        Global       


Key:        Alt-Shift F1-F12
Operation:        Save alternate workspace view

Window:        Global


Key:        1-8 (Number keys at top of keyboard)
Operation:        Switch layers on the current Hot Track or selected tracks       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)       


Key:        Ctrl 1-8 (Number keys at top of keyboard)
Operation:        Switch all tracks to that layer       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)


Key:        1 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 1 sample per pixel       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        2 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 4 samples per pixel       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        3 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 16 samples per pixel       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        4 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 64 samples per pixel

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        5 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 256 samples per pixel       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        6 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 1024 samples per pixel

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        7 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 4096 samples per pixel       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        8 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 16384 samples per pixel

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View       


Key:        9 (Numpad)
Operation:        Zoom into 65536 samples per pixel

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View


Key:        Ctrl-1 thru 9 (Numpad)
Operation:        Adjust waveform scaling factor       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes) | SoundFile View


Key:        Alt-0 thru 9 (Numpad)
Operation:        Jump to Locate Points 1-10 (0=10)       

Window:        MultiTrack (All Modes)
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#53 10-12-17 13:09
原帖himhui 于 10-12-17 12:07 发表
大家來溫習一下.....
Window:        MultiTr ...


學習也未想花時間的人, 何來温習.
只有繼續忽略"最强快捷鍵"的存在....
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:其实我一直都知道saw是操作流的

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#54 10-12-17 19:07

回复 爛手上帝 在 #49 的 pid=2890275 的贴子

哥哥~~saw就像是星际二~没有快捷键~怎么活?~~~

是在说~~~两个比喻同等性质~~没有快捷键~~~就不能活~~~只是用了一个问句~~~~

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#55 10-12-17 19:12

回复 dabeat 在 #50 的 pid=2890613 的贴子

我沒有看過其他軟件能夠除了功能豐富的快捷鍵外,
前面加个宿主二字~~~
我总是觉得玩saw就跟玩游戏一样~~~~
我不是老是在往游戏里面想~~~~因为除了这个比喻我想不到别的~~~~

saw和放技能一样的~~~~然后老师你说的最强包络线一样~~~~只是saw的大招~~~~~

玩一次混音比喻成一场战役~~~不停地快捷键~~~不停地“放技能”~~~~

俺的比喻对不对?~~~~~~

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#56 10-12-17 19:14

回复 爛手上帝 在 #51 的 pid=2890619 的贴子

改成“最强表情”橙不橙?

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#57 10-12-17 19:18
各位老大老师别见怪~~~

其实俺说的是saw的快捷键很重要~~~~

saw就像是星际二(陈述句~~)~没有快捷键~怎么活?~~~(问句~~~)

一个鼠标是完成不了一个战役的~{其他宿主可以,这是一个陈述句}~~~~这就是我用saw之后的感想~~~

是在说~~~两个比喻同等性质~~没有快捷键~~~就不能活~~~只是用了一个问句~~~~

[ 本帖最后由 殇小谨 于 10-12-17 19:20 编辑 ]

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#58 10-12-17 20:32
敏感了 敏感了

哈哈哈
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#59 10-12-18 05:39
“在這版真沒趣,說話都要小心翼翼的!怕褻瀆了神靈...”



[ 本帖最后由 爛手上帝 于 10-12-18 12:50 编辑 ]
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:哥~小声点~
:OMG.

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#60 10-12-18 11:17
原帖爛手上帝 于 10-12-18 05:39 发表

“這在版真沒趣,說話都要小心翼翼的!怕褻瀆了神靈...”



什麼叫 "這在版"............?
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:醉了
:我醉了!!
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