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Echo Units Used by The Shadows

50 years of Echoes

Updated 11th February, 2010

Paul L. Rossiter

Section 1

Echo Units Used

Determining which echo unit was used by the Shadows at any stage throughout their 50 years together is quite a challenge. The list below has been ascertained from a number of sources, including photographs, films/videos, books, comments in magazines, comments of the various web sites devoted to Shadows matters, personal correspondence and, most importantly, analysis of the echo patterns and voicing that characterises each of the units just as surely as fingerprints identify a human being. I have also indicated some of the recorded tunes that I believe were done with each particular unit as well as some of the claimed sightings of the units used in performance.
Because of the huge number of tracks recorded by The Shadows, I have generally just indicated the first and last tunes (in chronological order) that used any particular echo unit. To complete the list you will need a full discography such as Malcolm Campbell's excellent "A Pocket Guide to Shadow Music".
Technical information about each unit (and some others) is given in the second half of this article. Please also note that while I have followed recent practice in distinguishing between the two main different incarnations of the Meazzi drum echo units by the names Echomatic 1 and Echomatic 2, these designations were never in fact used by the factory.

1. 1960 - 1961
Meazzi Echomatic 1









Two models of the Meazzi Echomatic 1 were evidently used by the Shadows during this period: a 5 head model(probably a model F) and a 6 head model J, each having a unique pattern of echoes. There have also been suggestions that the 5 head machine was fitted with variable speed (Alan Jackson in Shadsfax Vol 24, Charlie Hall, private communication), with a speed range of about 1.5:1.
There is evidence of the Shadows using a Meazzi Echomatic 1 on the 19th March 1960 Cliff Richard Show (seen just behind Hank on the floor). However, I can't find any evidence of echoes on Living Doll (other than reverb) or Travelling Light or probably Voice in the Wilderness and songs before that, so I would place its acquisition by Hank at sometime between Jan 1960 and March 1960.
The 6 head machine was used on a number of Cliff Richard Shows (e.g. on Nine Times Out of Ten, 16th Feb 1961; Gee Whiz it's You, 23 Feb 1961) while the 5 head machine was used on other occasions (e.g. on FBI played on the Cliff Richard Show on 2nd March 1961).

However, with the possible exception of Midnight (that has echoes characteristic of the model J), only the 5 head machine appears to have been used on Shadows recordings and this occurred while the 6 head machine was still being used on the Cliff Richard Shows, i.e. there was a period of overlap between their use. The 6 head machine was used on some Cliff recordings (e.g. Now's the Time to fall in Love).

   


Echomatic 1 being used by Hank in 1961




Recordings: (all 5 head model F) first used on Apache in June 1960. Last used on Blue Star in Feb 1961.
I have not found any evidence of the use of variable speed of the model F on any Shadows recordings as yet.
2. 1961 - 1964
Meazzi/Vox Echomatic 2







Recordings: First used on record: Probably Find Me a Golden Street in Jan 1961; subsequently used on all tracks recorded with Fender Strats up to late 1963/early 1964, then Burns guitars on most or all tracks on Dance with The Shadows (May 1964).

Echomatic 2 seen here at Paris Olympia 1962.

Cliff and The Shadows with Echomatic 2 seen behind Hank.

Last used on record: The Miracle in July 1964 (with a Burns) or possibly Little Princess in Oct 1964?  



As with the period of overlap when the two models of Echomatic 1 were in use, there were occasions where the Echomatic 2 was seen together with an Echomatic 1.





Here an Echomatic 1 is seen on top of an Echomatic 2.

Hank using an Echomatic 2 during the early Burns era



3. 1964 - 5
Vox Long Tom










Seen in this EMI photograph of the Shadows at Abbey Road, Hank with Burns guitar (from Vox Amplifiers, Jim Elyea).


Recordings: Probably used on the Rise and Fall of Flingel Bunt in Feb 1964.

4. 1961- 1980
Baby Binson






Seen at live performances either as backup or in use.



Meazzi Echomatic 2 (behind Hank) and Baby Binson in 1962 (at the Eton Mission 59 Youth Club.)



Recordings: Seems to have been used on recordings such as Somewhere (Oct 1966), Cricket Bat Boogie (July 1977), and Just the Way You Were (Change of Address, 1980).
5. 1962? - 1980
Binson Echorec






(4 knob, sometimes called an Echorec 1 or Echorec B2)



Seen here at M,W & F concert in Cologne, March 1971 (photo at left licensed from gettyimages)
Recordings: Probably used on Rusk (Nov 1979), Temptation '80 (Change of Address, 1980).



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6. 1973 - 1978 Maestro Echoplex







Use cited in article in Sept 1977 Guitar Player in an interview with Hank.
Recordings: Not sure what Shadows recordings, if any, it may have been used on.


7. Mid- 1970's Binson 603? (six head)
Supposedly tried for a while but rejected because of high noise level.
8. 1973?
Watkins WEM The Shadow Echo


Seen used by Marvin and Farrer at Sheffield Baileys Club
Recordings: Not aware that it was used on any Shadows recordings.

9. 1978 - 1980 Binson EC3

  





Recordings: Comment from Hank to Charlie Hall: used on either Cavatina (March 1979) and/or Don't Cry For Me Argentina (Oct 1978). If not then Baby Binson also matches the timing).
Used live at the Palladium in 1978.
                                                                                                              

Binson EC-3 on box behind Hank (From The Shadows UK Tour '79 brochure).


10. 1978?
MXR Digital delay

Apparently used in a live show at the Palladium to replace the EC-3 that was "rather noisy".

11. 1978 -1979
Roland RE-201



Not identified on any recordings as yet.


12. 1979 - 1995

Roland RE 301


  





Seen in 1989 Live at Liverpool (see picture at left: two RE 301's in rack in background), 1980 Europe tour, 1986 Live at the NEC Birmingham, At Their Very Best video (1989).



Recordings: High Noon & Going Home (Life in the Jungle, 1982), Sailing (Moonlight Shadows, 1986), most tracks from At Their Very Best (1989)

Hank Marvin albums 1990 - 1996, including Hank Plays Live DVD (1995)

13. 1980 - 1997
Roland RE-501/SRE 555

Hank with an RE-501 playing More Than I Can Say, from a 1981 "The Shadows in Scandinavia" TV program

Recordings: Not yet positively identified on any recordings.

14. 1988
Roland RE-3 digital rack unit.




Apparently used "several times" in the 80's.

Recordings: Not sure it was used on any Shadows recordings.

15. 1996 - 1999
Alesis Q2 EFTP

Charlie Hall analysed the echoes from many of the early Shadows tracks as well as a number of actual echo machines and, under the guise of "Echoes From The Past" (EFTP), provided a service programming them as patches into client's Alesis Q2's. Hank used these as his echoes from 1996 to 1999.
  

Hank's touring rack from the late 1990's with two Alesis Q2's.


Recordings: Not used on any Shadows recordings (no Shadows activity from Dec 1990 - 2004)
Shadows Live Shows: None held.

Used on Hank Marvin CDs from 1996 to 1999 and Hank Marvin live shows during that period.

16. 1999 - 2008

Alesis Q20 EFTP


The Alesis Q20 offered improved performance over the Q2 and EFTP extended their programmes for this processor. Hank used these units from 1999 to 2008.
Recordings: The Shadows 2004 Final Tour.
Live Shows: 2004 The Final Tour


Also used on Hank Marvin CDs from 1999 to 2008 and Hank Marvin live shows during that period.

17. 2008 - present

TVS3







The TVS3 offers programmability to match the parameters of the different vintage echo units but, unlike the Alesis,  uses a vacuum tube preamplifier and full analogue signal processing emulating the sound of the early Meazzi Echomatics. Most agree that it has facilitated a return to the vintage sound of the early 1960's (often described as "That Sound") that Shadows fans adore.
Recordings: 2008 Royal Variety Performance, 2008 Guitar man (selected tracks), 2009 Cliff and The Shadows Reunited CD, EP and single
Live: 2009 - 2010, Cliff and The Shadows 50th Anniversary 2009 world tour.

   


Two TVS3's rack mounted at Hank's studio in Perth, Australia.

Hank's current touring case with two TVS3's and Shure radio link sitting above.

   




Tech sitting in front of twoTVS3's in rack at rehearsals in Ireland for the Cliff and The Shadows 50th Anniversary world tour, 2008 (from 50th Anniversary tour brochure).

Please note that the timings and amplitudes of the heads quoted here are nominal values only and there is evidence that they varied (sometimes considerably) from these nominal values. This could have been due to varying friction of the heads against the drum/tape and head (mis-) alignment. For example, actual echo timings can vary by a few mSec from one position in a track to another due to wow and flutter, with even wider variations from tune to tune. More dramatically, the last echo from the Echomatic 2 appears around 350 mSec on some tracks and well above 360 mSec on others (of course, there could also have been two different machines?). With regard to levels, Charlie Hall has also commented: Some of these units had presets inside that were not intended to be changed by the user. Dick Denney told me he was often called to the studio to make corrections to these settings, so either someone was messing with them or they went off spec on their own! This could explain why there are a number of variations, especially from the Echomatic 1.
  

Meazzi Echomatic 1
6 Replay head...Model J:
6 replay heads unequally spaced around a drum with a magnetic coating. Factory levels of the heads preset:1 strongest, 6 weakest, though the echo levels exhibited on most recordings differ from these simple settings.





Switching used by Shadows: generally used in Position A: all 6 heads, feedback from head 6
5 Replay Head Model F(?):
Switching used by Shadows: generally used in Position B nominally with heads 1, 4 and 5, though sometimes with head 5 substituted for head 4 and sometimes with 4 heads enabled (occasionally including head 2). The feedback (if used) was taken from head 3, 4 or 5.
Meazzi Echomatic 2
4 replay heads, unequally spaced around a drum with a magnetic coating, levels of heads 1, 2 & 3 adjustable in relation to head 4: Head 3 level lower than heads 1 & 2, though the echo levels exhibited on most recordings differ from these simple settings.







*Note: levels of heads 1-3 collectively adjustable downwards relative to head 4. Feedback from head 4: adjustable

Vox Long Tom
Magnetic tape unit with 6 replay heads evenly spaced at about 76 mSec, 4 switchable options (same as Meazzi Tape unit) and fixed relative levels. Also rapid/slow switch that switches out heads 1 and 3 for slow.

   

Head	Delay (mSec)	Relative level (dB)	Switch option
1	76	0	Halo
2	152	0	Halo
3	230	-2	Halo
4	305	-2	Halo
5	380	-4	Repeat
6	455	-4	Echo

Note that the tape speed can vary up or down by a couple of percent with different tape tensions (i.e. length of tape loop)
Feedback from one of last 3 heads, depending upon switching option. Variable feedback level.
Meazzi Echomatic Tape
(Not used by the Shadows, included only to be more comprehensive)
Echomatic PA 306:
Magnetic tape unit with 6 replay heads unevenly spaced, 4 switchable options and fixed relative levels.
   

Head	Delay (mSec)	Relative level (dB)	Switch option*
1	76	0	Halo
2	154	0	Halo
3	228	-2	Halo
4	300	-2	Halo
5	400	-4	Repeat
6	800	-4	Echo

Note: also has an internal 4 position plug that allows other variations.
However, the tape speed can vary up or down by a couple of percent with different tape tensions (i.e. length of tape loop)
Feedback from one of last 3 heads, depending upon switching option. Variable feedback level by internal control.
These units are often modified to give delays closer to those of the Meazzi drum units.
Baby Binson
4 heads equally spaced around a drum with a magnetic surface.



Binson B1 mechanism used in the Baby Binson.




Switching:

Switch Position	Heads
1	1
2	2
3	3
4	4
5	1 + 2
6	2 + 3
7	3 + 4
8	1 + 3
9	2 + 4
10	1 + 2 + 3
11	2 + 3 + 4
12	1 + 2 + 3 + 4

The Shadows generally used just a single head plus feedback.  Levels: relative levels fixed, only global adjustment
Feedback: from all selected heads, only global adjustment

Binson Echorec B2
4 heads equally spaced around a drum with a magnetic surface.


Binson B2 mechanism (larger diameter drum than B1 mechanism).

Head	Delay (mSec)	Nominal relative level* (dB)
1	72	0
2	144	0
3	216	0
4	288	0

Switching:

Switch Position	Heads
1	1
2	2
3	3
4	4
5	1 + 2
6	2 + 3
7	3 + 4
8	1 + 3
9	2 + 4
10	1 + 2 + 3
11	2 + 3 + 4
12	1 + 2 + 3 + 4

  


The Shadows generally used just a single head plus feedback.
Levels: relative levels fixed, only global adjustment
Feedback: from all selected heads, only global adjustment


Binson Echorec EC3
4 heads equally spaced around a drum with a magnetic surface.

Head	*Delay (mSec)	Nominal relative level (dB)
1	33	0
2	66	0
3	99	0
4	132	0

* Delay times reported by Charlie Hall
Heads individually selectable for echo and feedback, feedback variable.

Roland 201





Magnetic tape unit with 3 echo heads plus 4th (long delay) sound on sound (SoS) head and reverb, variable speed.

Head	Delay (min speed)	Delay (max speed)	Relative level
1	197	71	0dB
2	391	141	0dB
3	597	208	0dB

Switching (not including reverb effect):

Switch Position	Head
1	1
2	2
3	3
4/9	2 + 3
8	1 + 2
10	1 + 3
11	1 + 2 + 3

Levels: relative levels fixed, only global adjustment
Feedback: from all selected heads, only global adjustment
Roland 301
Magnetic tape unit with 3 echo heads plus 4th (long delay) sound on sound (SoS) head, variable speed. Also has reverb and chorus effects.


Switching (not including SoS, reverb and chorus effects):

Switch Position	Head
1	1
2	2
3	3
4	1 + 2
5	2 + 3
6	1 + 2 + 3

Levels: relative levels fixed, only global adjustment
Feedback: from all selected heads, only global adjustment

Roland RE-501/SRE-555
3 heads plus sound on sound (SoS), similar switching as RE 301 but longer echo delays and shorter SoS delay.

Switching (not including reverb and chorus effects, and SoS that is independently switchable):

Switch Position	Head
1	1
2	2
3	3
4	1 + 2
5	2 + 3
6	1 + 2 + 3

Levels: relative levels fixed, only global adjustment
Feedback: from all selected heads (except SoS), only global adjustment


Roland RE-3
Digital echo unit, single delay programmable for level, delay time (10 - 300mSec) and feedback.
Maestro Echoplex
1 moveable head 60 - 650 mSec (plus sound on sound head in later models)

Level: variable
Feedback: variable

Watkins WEM The Shadow Echo
Two replay heads individually switchable, variable global echo level and feedback.



MXR Digital Delay
Digital echo unit, single delay programmable for level, delay time (10 - 320mSec) and feedback.

Klempt Echolette S
(Not used by the Shadows, included only to be more comprehensive)
3 record heads equally spaced, two replay heads spaced equally with the last record head. Two speed.

Nominal head spacings: 220 mSec between record heads, 110 mSec from last record head to first replay head and also between replay heads.
Switching: Replay head 2 or 1 + 2.
Level: each record head individually adjustable. Replay head levels fixed and equal.
Feedback: global
Acknowledgements:

I would particularly like to thank Charlie Hall (EFTP) who has generously shared much of his valuable knowledge via web chat sites and in personal communications and Alan McKillop who provided a number of pictures. I would also like to thank the many other contributors to the Shadows chat sites who have helped build to this body of knowledge, particularly John Campbell, Alan Jackson, George Geddes, Justin Daish, Stuart Duffy, Bill Bowley, Dave Robinson, Reg Goodwin and Didier. If I have left others off this list please let me know and I will be happy to add their names.
Also, if you have any corrections or additional material you would like me to add, please let me know.

Paul Rossiter
February 2010.

我艹，这个沙发够牛把~~~~~

磁带大部分是延时，不是混响

而且标题是磁带，后来怎么出来数字效果器了？

说的对，这个就合理了。

严格来说是回声，但是一般RE201 301 里面都有混响，所以就简单看看，不必那么计较。开心就好，谁也没谁懂的多。

顶啊。资料很好，学习了。